Re: insulin resistance or sensitivity?

I have been liviing with Type 1 diabetes for 37 years.  I have read and reviewed the multiple postings on this thread about reversing Type 1 to Type 2 diabetes as a consequence of taking a natural food product.  I clearly understand the suspicions that people have about this assertion, particularly by those of us who have seen so many false assertions, claims, and theories throughout the years about "healing" this disease without actual medical intervention.

If "Reversed" is correct, that eating healthy foods is the answer, then let us all resolve to do so if we're not already doing so.  Let's eat healthy and organic vegetables that are available from our local grocery stores and farmers' markets...no need to buy a "magic potion" in a bottle from the websites cited by "Reversed" in virtually all of his posts.  By the way, promotion of commercial products on Juvenation is a violation of the terms, conditions, and rights of use that we all agreed to when we signed on to use Juvenation.  "Reversed", I would encourage you to refrain from the promotion of commercial products on Juvenation.  This is site abuse that will and shall be reported accordingly.

For all of those who wonder if such a claim is viable, I offer this:  Anyone who has had Type 1 diabetes for 7-8 years as alleged, should be visiting their endocrinologist every 3 months.  If someone with Type 1 diabetes is taking "other drugs" as claimed, it would be interesting to find out what those drugs are.  By the way, insulin IS NOT a drug.  Insulin is a hormone naturally produced by one's pancreas.  In the case of Type 1 diabetes, the cells that produce this natural hormone are destroyed, and thus it becomes necessary to take insulin.  Type 1 diabetes is an autoimmune disease.  It is not preventable.  It is not the result of foods eaten by individuals.  If it is, then how can we explain the onset of Type 1 diabetes by infants at age 6 months?

Secondly, the only way that a qualified endocrinologist could conclude that one's disease moved from Type 1 to Type 2 is if a series of rather costly tests are conducted to show increases in C-Peptide levels before and after the "change" occurred.  To convince me, "Reversed" would have to demonstrate those measured and quantified changes in their C-Peptide levels.  And those changes would have to be sustained, not simply transient or temporary.

Furthermore, the fundamental question:  To what extent, if any, did the intake of insulin by "Reversed" change as a result of this?

The list of questions and inquiries as to the validity of this claim could go on and on and on.  But, I will not waste your nor my time any more.

"Reversed", I wish you well; however, I strongly urge you to refrain from using this site, a service to all of us living with this disease, as a forum for peddling products.  

On the contrary...Juvenation is intended to be a forum for espousing the truth.

Every answer to your questions I answered in above comments. Obviously since my Type 1 was healed, so will my Type 2, as I already said, that's why I look forward to being diagnosed with no diabetes at all, though I recall my doctor reluctantly stating I no longer have Type 1, so who knows, maybe he will say I no longer diabetes, but he won't give me a clean bill of health...I have heard of doctors doing this to keep you coming back.

You have a very strange way of being open-minded Elie. If that article isn't science, then why don't YOU prove that article isn't science. I gave you an option how to help heal your pancreas with food, the way I did, but you have not tried it, even though it is just food....sounds very closed-minded to me, which is what a skeptic would be.

Hey there Carl. Your reason for being skeptical are very much appreciated. I have heard many excuses why even though I no longer have Type 1, I still must have it, because according to everyone here, it is impossible to reverse Type 1. I remember in history class hearing about Americans in the 1950s claiming it is impossible to travel to the moon. Can you imagine the arrogance of someone making such a broad claim as "it's impossible"? Such arrogance that is. And the fact is I am not affiliated with that healthy food in any way, other than sharing my experience with it. If I could find that superior food at the supermarket, I would say I found it at the supermarket, but I didn't, I found that food at NoMoreVitamins.com. You spoke of numerous tests and clinical screenings that are required to diagnose someone from Type 1 to Type 2....couldn't I say you should refrain from peddling tests? Just trying to help you be more fair.

Lastly, you said Juvenation is intended to be a forum for truth. Who gets to decide what's true, YOU? Again, it is important to give each individual a forum to express their experiences and concerns. My experience happens to have awaken the extreme skepticism here on Juvenation. All I want to do is help one person. That person will obviously be as open-minded as me and not fear, since it is just food. I mean, you eat food, too, don't you? I can't imagine it being so difficult for anyone to comprehend how healthy food couldn't help heal your pancreas or your entire body for that matter. I read someone saying that healthy food will hurt your pancreas...what's next, healthy food will hurt your liver or heart? there are really strange ones here. Just do your own research then, go to their website, look around, and if you have a question, just email them. That's what I did and look at me now; I no longer have Type 1! Now that's TRUTH!

I think you missed the boat somewhere because you don't go from IDDM 1 to DM 2.  They are both totally separate diseases with their own sets of etiology (causes) and disease processes and treatments.  You can have both types but they don't switch.  I think what you are saying is totally understandable in type 2 as diet is a key issue in controlling it and you can stop taking insulin if you get on a correct diet, exercise, etc regimen.  Because you took insulin doesn't mean you have type 1.  I am sorry if you were given a mis diagnosis and that happens often especially in regards to diabetes because there is still way too much that is unknown and unfortunately the medical community in many areas are still 20 -30 years behind the times in what they know about both types.  If you don't have IDDM from this "cure" then you should have no diabetes at all especially if all you eat is the supplement because you don't get DM 2 as a step down from IDDM 1.  Before insulin, type 1s ate things like only lettuce and a few other types of "free" foods and survived for a brief time but  eventually they died anyway.  If you are a real type 1, I hope you are being closely monitored by a Diabetologist to see that this is not just a brief reprive and end up really hurting yourself.  

You say all you want to do is help one person but in fact if all of us type 1s would immediately take your advice and stop taking our insulin and take the supplement you would not be helping but hurting or killing many people.  Years ago a faith healer on TV said all you had to do was just reach and touch the TV and you would be healed.  Someone with Type 1 took him at his word, believed and threw away his insulin and died.  Be careful with your help because it may be something that trips someone into disaster because there are many of us who would love to have a cure dropped in our laps but as they say "if it seems too good to be true-guess what-it usually is.

I never said stop taking insulin. And I was not misdiagnosed. It's not a supplement, it's food. Check the source I gave before you assume things no one ever said.

So you consider this powder a food? Is this all you eat? You don't eat any real food besides the 7 tspns a day? This is just a supplement!

Hey there. I see you are making more of your left field assumptions...you like doing that, don't ye. I always eat as healthy as I can, as I am sure you do, too, but including Super YASAi made the big difference. And when did tomato and broccoli become a supplement? Look at the ingredients already would ye? You keep assuming things about Super YASAi that are clearly not there. It's food in a bottle; obviously that's the best way to keep it fresh and healthy.

definition of a dietary supplement by the FDA: Overview of Dietary Supplements

What is a dietary supplement?

Congress defined the term "dietary supplement" in the Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act (DSHEA) of 1994. A dietary supplement is a product taken by mouth that contains a "dietary ingredient" intended to supplement the diet. The "dietary ingredients" in these products may include: vitamins, minerals, herbs or other botanicals, amino acids, and substances such as enzymes, organ tissues, glandulars, and metabolites. Dietary supplements can also be extracts or concentrates, and may be found in many forms such as tablets, capsules, softgels, gelcaps, liquids, or powders.

Yes, INGREDIENTS: Organic Tomato, Organic Carrot, Organic Kamut, Organic Broccoli, Organic Kale, Organic Spinach, Organic Sage and Organic Cinnamon. can be considered supplement to your dietary intake.-they are botaniclals.

I do not make assumptions! I read the ingredients. I see the supplement is made from food, just like many other supplements and vitamins. You said it is food. If it was food to eat, then you would need to chew it and would not have to eat anything else to go with it. You need to quit sounding so demeaning when you talk to others, especially those of us with brains and education. I did the research on this product. It has no scientific backing that could be found. It has not been approved by the FDA or other entities well more educated and knowing than you or I. It comes in a powder and is to be used in conjunction with your normal diet. Hmm, just like every other vitamin and supplement out on the market. If it was just plain food, why pay the money for this product when we can buy it or grow it ourselves. It would be a lot cheaper to eat the whole vegetable than buy this powder form of the vegetables.Then if you grow it yourself, you get the exercise needed for good health also, or does exercise have nothing to do with maintaining a healthy lifestyle?

Everything posted on the health guru site are opinions and personal experiences. If this product were the miracle cure, we would have heard more about scientific testing. May be this product is working some sort of "cure" for you, but it might be the doctor you are seeing made a mistake about you being a type 1, also. You don't know much about diabetes and the facts are there are many variables that can cause diabetes and most of them cannot be undone by food. I was 6 years old when finally diagnosed a type 1 and it is because my pancreas and the islets of Langerhans did not produce or manufacture insulin. This was not caused by a bad diet. Trauma can also damage the pancreas and the product you are pushing will not fix the damage. You need to do more research on how diabetes is developed and what can cause this disease.

You can have both type 1 and type 2...it is called latent autoimmune diabetes in adults or LADA.

This back and forth should come to end soon I hope. So, the definition of a food is you must "chew it"? I guess yogurt, butter and ice cream aren't a food then. Got it! You are the one that said tomato, etc... isn't a food, so that's why I said read the ingredients, because each ingredient is food. And most vitamins and supplements are NOT from food, they are synthesized, why do you think USA Today stated over 50% of Americans are chronically ill and most of us take some form of vitamins. How about this then, since it is obvious you won't believe me that I am no longer Type1. If you truly are educated and do have a brain like you just said, I am sure you would admit real nutrition only comes from real food, right? and not synthesized in a lab.  And I didn't say "plain food", I said it is superior food that you cannot buy at any grocery store. I'm only using the words from their website, yet you keep acting like I own the darn company or work for them.  How would you like it if I read you saying how much this new and improved insulin/treatment you are taking makes you feel awesome and you told everyone about it...can I say you must be peddling insulin or some treatment? Would it be fair to say that you must be some kind of insulin/treatment pusher? Of course that's not fair, so don't do it to me, just because I am happy with my own results and therefore eager to share it with others.

My not being Type 1 anymore aside, hopefully you can at least believe I have not bought a single vitamin, mineral, enzyme, pro-biotic, protein powder or energy drink, since I first started taking Super YASAi. Because of that I have saved several thousand this year on mine and my family's health.

P.S. Just because my answers to your questions have not been the type of response you expect, does not suddenly make my answers incorrect. In psychology, when someone doesn't feel loved by someone, it's not always because that person doesn't love you, but most often is because he or she shows love in a way you do not expect and therefore you cannot often see or feel. This still doesn't mean that person is not showing love. Well, truth works the same way, in everything. My answers have all been 100% true, though you didn't think so, because it wasn't the answer you expect. This still doesn't change the fact that what I said was true. And it takes several years for someone without diabetes to then develop diabetes, in your case, it took 6 years, 9 months. You must have had a very hard life and tried so many different regimens, no doubt mostly from hospitals, and you have come to the conclusion that nothing will ever heal your pancreas, and if I went through what you have been through, I would be extremely skeptical and cynical when anyone mentions anything that even resembles a cure. In other words, I understand where you are coming from, but try not to assume no one else on the planet could ever reverse their own disease, because that just makes you sound angry, not to mention, arrogant, too, because that also means you are saying that if you haven't found a cure, no one else on the entire planet will, and yes, that would be an extremely arrogant assumption.

I have the conclusion that there is a cure being worked on. Not all food is chewed, but a powder form of any food is considered a supllement, if it is just supplying the nutrients. The key word here is nutrients. You can get these same nutrients from eating these vegetables themselves and feel more satisfied in doing so. I am glad this supplement has been working for you, but you can't substantiate that it will work for the rest of us or even any of us. Until I see proof from credited authorities, I won't put my life on the limb. If there was research procedures going on, through acredited sources, I would be one of the first to sign for it, as I have done in the past and presently doing. But this product is being sold in health food "stores" for better health and you are pushing it as a diabetic cure. There is no real proof yet, to that effect. Show me the clinical trials or clinical trial results and I will change my opinion. Until then, I know that there still is no cure for diabetes of any type.

It sometimes takes years to develop diabetes and sometimes it takes just a car accident or certain diseases and infections can cause damage to your pancreas.

I have been receiving emails for this post for some reason and I cannot ignore them anymore.

Reversed, don't you think that if what you are saying were true that the research scientists around the wrold who have been working on developing  a cure for diabetes for years, would have figured this out by now ?? They are much smarter than you or I and have been working on this for years spending millions in researching it.

It is hurtful and wrong that you would post such rediculous information and possibly give someone who belongs to this website false hope. I have been T1 diabetic for 11 years and I know that mine was most likely caused by my immune system killing off my islet cells from a virus or illness I got as a kid. That is why T1 is an autoimmune disease. I follow all advances in possible cures and I doubt very highly that we would be spending so much on stem cell research and developing an artificial pancreas if it was as easy as eating or taking some stupid yasai supplement. I don't think you are or were ever T1 and honestly you probably aren't even T2. You are probably one of these people on the internet that made there own website under one of these supplement companies and gets paid everytime someone orders off your website ! It is sick to try to make money off of people that have a chronic illness by feeding them nonsense ! you should think twice before posting again as it is cruel !

I have been reading this post as well and must reply.  To:  Reversed....DON'T insult us Type 1's by telling us that we are taking a "drug" called insulin!  Why are you so defensive about this so-called natural food product?  Let me guess, because you want to publicize the business(s) through the Google search engine.  The more people that look up or view these businesses online...the closer they move up to the first page.  Not because you want to cure us Type I strangers!  Google-ing can benefit the business even when no purchase is made.  I am refraining from looking it up and believe and respect the others on Juvenation that have done so.    "Food in a bottle... the best way to keep it fresh and healthy."!!!  YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING???  We all know that  "fresh" fruits and vegetables are the best.  If you do "your" research and look at the diets of people with Type I diagnosed prior to the discovery of insulin (1942-43),  their diets were very restricted, no processed or junk food.   What they ate were very low carbs and lots of fresh vegetables.  Their diabetes did not go away and they died of complications and starvation!  It was very sad for these individuals and their families. Some sites even show pictures of these Diabetics before death...very disturbing!   Don't you DARE tell us that we should not be taking the "drug" insulin or take less than what our doctors recommend!  It is what keeps us ALIVE!